MP Asot Michael Questions Suggested Judge, Jury, Executioner Provision in Island’s Revised Parliamentary Standing Orders

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The subject of Parliamentary Privilege and Immunity was the focus of heated debate between MP for St. Peter Hon. Asot Michael and Speaker of the House Sir Gerald Watt QC when the former questioned the overwhelming powers of a section of the revised Standing Orders.

MP Michael said that while Parliamentary Immunity is not something that should be taken for granted by members of either side of the aisle, it stands as part of traditional inherited practices that Antigua’s House of Representatives and allows sufficient leeway for frank and open debates.

This is Section 15.2 to 15.6 of the revised Standing Order.
However, the Section, according to the MP’s interpretation, provides that a non-member of the House, who has been referred to in the House by name or in such a way that is readily identifiable, to make a submission to the Speaker in writing claiming defamation. This non-member would also be able to submit a response to the accused and request that said response be incorporated into Hansard, the parliament’s official record.

The Revised Standing Orders debated on Tuesday was said to have been drafted in 2018, according to Attorney General Hon. Steadroy ‘Cutie’ Benjamin – the mover of the revision.
This particular amendment will force MPs to be more mindful of openly speaking against members of the public while on the parliamentary floor. As it stands, an MP speaking in active parliament cannot be sued for libel. MPs traditionally use the platform to respond to attacks against them and their offices in the public domain. These responses cannot be challenged in the court of law.

MP Michael’s challenge was, essentially, that Speaker Sir Gerald Watt QC was chairperson of the drafting committee of the revised standing order and had essentially given himself powers that supersede those of elected members.

“If the Speaker decides that the response should be incorporated in the parliamentary record, he shall order that that submission, as may be amended by him, be read by the clerk at the next subsequent sitting after his determination,” the MP said while urging that laws be passed for longevity, and not only for the benefit of the government of the day.
In asking for the Speaker’s indulgence, and consideration of his comments outside of a personal nature, MP Michael reminded – with the verification of the AG – that the standing orders were last reviewed and passed in 1967.

“The speaker now becomes the judge, not the members who are elected. No vote [by MPs] on whether a non-member submission is included in Hansard. So, in this defamation case before the highest court in the country, which is this parliament, the trial is with the Speaker – the judge alone without a jury.

“We [MPs] are non-entities. We don’t vote to decide if we defame somebody? The speaker in his sole authority decides if the person has a case and instructs the clerk to include it into Hansard?

“That is Ludacris. It erodes the parliamentary democracy that we inherited and we are governed by. It cannot be right,” the MP said passionately.
He asked that the entire Section 15 be deleted from the revised Standing Orders, as unacceptable and an assault on Parliamentary Privilege.
Responding, House Speaker Sir Gerald Watt questioned the MP’s interpretation of how the Section affects Parliamentary Privilege.

Michael clarified, “It affects it because [if an MP] says something that is defamatory or libelous, you [the Speaker] are the judge; [you] meet with the person; you don’t have to consider the truth; you instruct the Clerk – You, not the House, we don’t decide. We have no say as elected members. And you are not elected. And [then] you vote on it and you decide that is to be recorded in Hansard. I’ve never heard of such ludicrous. Who elected you?”
The Speaker said the amendment is in keeping with the new modern approach the world over, including the UK and Canada, and is a way of preventing parliamentarians from saying something that seriously affects a person in his business, reputation, or otherwise.
He said the individual will simply be able to go to parliament and submit a response in defense that is to be included in Hansard.

“I think if we look through these rules, we will still see Parliamentary Privilege. It is no doubt that the general public is not happy with the fact that a Parliamentarian can say whatever he likes and that’s the end of it. That’s the old fashion thing. It is not the modern way. It is for the parliament to decide if they want to move forward,”
The Speaker did not object to adding a voting criterion that includes MPs before a response is included in Hansard, but questioned the rationale of throwing out the section completely – calling it “rather reckless” since it does not “really interfere with real privilege”.

Leader of the Opposition Hon. Jamol Pilgrim who also weighed in on the subject agreed with his colleague on the opposite side of the aisle in that the sections indeed give sweeping powers of this matter to the Speaker and should be removed. He did however support the notion that the public should have an opportunity to respond to allegations made against them in the Parliament and have those responses included in the official record.

“Persons need to get that opportunity to clear their name and have it on record,” in the event that it comes up at a later date and needs to be rebutted.

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12 COMMENTS

  1. I seems tome that Sir Gerald needs to depend some time revisiting the whole Standing Orders!

  2. Hon.Asot Michael is the Parliamentary Opposition. Mr. Michael really performed very well in Parliament yesterday. I believe that Hon. Jamale Pringle should take lessons from Hon. Michael to see how to debate and referenced a bill. Well presented by Hon. Michael yesterday.

  3. It would have been interesting to see Gerry’s response if during his presentation, pringle had ask him who elected you?as Asot did.

    • Jamale Pringle still grapples with basic subject-verb agreement. His mind doesnt seem to stretch too far. Maybe you can help him since his PAID “RESEARCH OFFICER” won’t.

  4. Asot Michael, MP seems to be more concerned, that ammendment(s), such as these will be used, to rein in, Our politicians who have being running amok, abusing the system(s) of governance which are in place to serve ALL the People!

    They (the politicians) need to be reined in, and held accountable for their callous behaviors.

  5. MISS THE POINT

    That which shall be understood are these;

    (i) …Parliament is the highest legislative body;

    (ii) …It is not a Court, neither for;

    (a) ‘…litigious proceedings; or

    (b) …Criminal proceedings;

    Though a ‘House Speaker’ may guard against, and seek to discourage such discussions, it bears no significance to the parliamentary proceedings.

    Even so, this is certainly about ‘…Public Happiness’ as alluded by the ‘House Speaker.’

    As there are existing Statutes governing the issues of ‘…Libel or Slander or Defamation,’ it seems not to be the business of a ‘House Speaker’ to make determinations on who has encroached upon ‘…Public Happiness.’

    • Not say this is a circus, because I am not verse on the Parliamentary procedures then,
      A…why should Asot be so worried?
      B…Is he contemplating challenging, the PM for leadership of ABLP?
      C…Is he unhappy in the background, thus his display and displeasure regarding several issues, as of late?

      If, this is simply about House Rules, what is the Speaker trying to do?

  6. Isn’t this the guy who was kicked out of Cabinet a few months ago? He’s sure doing a lot of talking lately. I hope Ras is wrong in wondering if the guy is “contemplating challenging, the PM for leadership of ABLP!!!!

    • Yes that’s the guy who was KICKED OUT of cabinet. His behaviour was downright “rude and wrenk” in the parliament. And to answer Ras Smood, C is the answer.

      • Allegedly, Asot Michael – MP is/was the piggy bank to keep ALP, now ABLP in the driver’s seat of the Government.
        With his displeasure, and the Nature of the voting population, in regards to buying of votes etc., it’s not farfetched, that Asot Michael – MP could become a Memver of the UPP, and win his seat.
        Many politicians have switch allegiance over the years. In politics, and the love for power, #Anything #Is #Possible.

        Keep your ears, to the ground. There’s some shaking going on, and it ain’t no earthquake, or the Running Of The Bulls.

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