Three Charged with Murder of Teenager Tafari Joseph

I am waiting to see how a murder charge can really be viable in this matter…unless of course my understanding of the law is wrong… somebody make sense for me please!

I am confused! You see why the police need meaningful press conferences so that they can properly update the public and answer pertinent questions? Such headlines only serve to confuse and bewilder the general public. Honestly I am beginning to understand more and more why the police are losing so many cases. They always seem to apply the wrong charges to criminals.

My learned lawyer. The facts are simple. They’re liable for murder simply because this shooting happen in Sutherland’s. How far is msjmc from Sutherland’s? Those hoodlums took their fallen croonie back to villa while he bled out and stage a scene of a drive-by that never existed and then change his clothes and their clothes. Aren’t they responsible? Wendell come on you need to get some conscience.

When you’re ready let’s speak about the appeal of Dorian marshall and the ethical aspect of it with u presiding over that case while being commissioner of police only to be the civillian lawyer to free these men a few years after getting kicked in your bottom from the political directorate that you once answered to.

Are the police doing their job or is somebody snitching? Anywho, I’m interested to know if the patron who shot the youth will be charged. Was he in rightful possession of a firearm? And the first youth who got charged, is he ratting out the others who planned the robbery? We need details.

Friend and company. They may not have pulled the trigger but they are culpable

Told them so .. told the officers they should be charged for his murder … ive seen this happen on the first 48

God don’t sleep

….but wasn’t he (Tafari) involved in the robbery??? Or did I miss something?

We are confused what is going on

As far as I saw in the video, the guy pointed his gun at the same person who shot him on his way out. How can that be murder??

Yes because he was involved in the robbery but he got shot and they take him home change his clothes while he was bleeding and bleeding so where was his mother then there drop him off on the ground in front of the hospital really so yes that’s supposed to get charged all for them. No the gentleman that did the shooting wasn’t supposed to get charged because if it was the other way around it would be a next nothing believe people things alone it is not yours see and laugh I am not going to say that I’m happy that he’s died but it is sad to see that a young life was taken in that manner.

Am eagerly waiting to see how see how this one pans out.
I agree with Audley Phillip. The police and ANR has most of us confused. Police should have explained to the public the rational and the law behind those accomplices being charged. And in the absence of that, ANR should have found that out and reported as such

All now they don’t mention if its a liscene firearm holder shot and unalive this kid…Gaston Browne your government is a piece of shit..
Anybody that charge for this murder is the coward that shot him and run.

The law is the law , we have people taken to court and prison for illegally possession of firearms. So regardless if someone attempts to rob you and you use an unlicensed firearm, you should be arrested and charged. Worst yet someone got killed in an alleged robbery.
Now if it’s true that he and his friends went to stage a robbery and the owner of the supermarket shot him and he was removed from the scene and taken away which could have caused his death. They should be charged for causing by death by negligence.
This would be a good case to follow. Since the postmortem may reveal that he died of the bullet or bullet wounds. Just imagine he got shot in the head or heart. So in order to be successful in getting a conviction for the three. It will have to be proven that they murdered him.
Nice though that they are arrested and might be spending some time in prison. A long time since cases in Antigua take forever to call.

This do not make any sense. Unless the suspect, wait, the child that was killed is a suspect too cause he was robbing a place. Ok seem like the shooter had an illegal firearm, even if he tried to protect the supermarket he still has to go jail for killing the robber man/child . Ok so there u have it. Oh also the police here are incompetent and useless!

Charge them and then ge them little time .like wa them do the guy that kill the syrian man ..this place is getting out of hand

From the video it would appear that the shooter “premeditated” his action which in my opinion is murder. Making the other robbers scape goats is another thing!

You missed that you’re an idiot

Actions have consequences. Even consequences have consequences. And these idiots will still not learn. People out here working hard for their earnings and yall just come and rob

They are guilty of murder because the crime they all too part in resulted in his death and instead of dropping him off at the Hospital they allowed him to bleed out. A lot of people get prison time in prison in America for the same thing. They may not have pulled the trigger but all of their actions resulted in his death and they are being held accountable for their actions resulting in his death.

WHAT THE HELL…! …AUDLEY PHILLIP: ET AL CONFUSED…? …RIGHTLY SO: …DPP ADVICE ***
ALL APPEARED ‘…CONFUSED.’

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CAUSATION:

IN CRIMINAL LIABILITY, THERE IS A PRINCIPLE CALLED ‘…CAUSATION.’

IT IS: either

(i) ‘…FACTUAL: or

(ii) …LEGAL.’

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SEEMINGLY IGNORING THE QUESTION OF: …REASONABLE PROSPECT OF CONVICTION,’ ADVICE REPORTEDLY SOUGHT FROM ‘…DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS (DPP), CLEMENT JOSEPH’ GUIDED THE POLICE: to

(a) ‘…ARREST THE DECEASED ACCOMPLICES: and

(b) …CHARGING THEM WITH MURDER.’

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GREATER AND LESSER:

IN FACT:

(i) ‘…IN THE ‘…GREATER CRIME’ OF MURDER: also

(ii) …INCLUDES THE ‘…LESSER CRIME’ OF MANSLAUGHTER.’

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WHETHER OR NOT SO CHARGEd, THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS: are

(i) ‘…DOES AN ACCOMPLICE OBLIGED TO INCRIMINATE HIM/HERSELF IN CRIMINALITY: and accomplice

(ii) …DOES THE ‘DPP CLEMENT JOSEPH’ SEE A ‘…REASONABLE PROSPECT OF CONVICTION

(iii) …IS THE ‘DPP’ MERELY ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A ‘…CAUSATION TEST CASE?’

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DE-JACKETED MOUNTAIN CHICKEN:

BE IT ‘…FACTUAL OR LEGAL,’ ONE MAY QUICKER SEE A ‘…DE-SKINNED DOMINICA MOUNTAIN CHICKEN,’ THAN OBTAINING A ‘…CRIMINAL CONVICTION’ AGAINST THE ‘…DECEASED ACCOMPLICES.’

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CORONER’S INQUEST: …ABSOLUTE NECESSITY:

FROM PROFESSIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, A ‘…CORONER’S INQUEST’ IS ‘…AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY: to

(a) ‘…ASCERTAIN AND DETERMINE: if

(b) …THE HOMICIDE (By Prosecution Witness …Thomas): was

(c) …JUSTIFIED: or

(d) …FOR THE SHOOTER: to be

(e) …CRIMINALIZED AND CHARGED WITH: either

(i) …MURDER: or

(ii) …MANSLAUGHTER.’

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PROFESSIONAL ROLES: …KNOWLEDGE: AND …EXPERIENCE:

(a) ‘…FORMER POLICE COURT PROSECUTOR:

(b) …FORMER HEAD OF C.I.D.’

(c) …FORMER HEAD OF POLICE SERVICE.’

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NO PUN INTENDED:

BUT SUFFICE TO SAY:

(i) ‘…PASTORS DO NOT RUN POLICE SERVICES:

(ii) …PASTORS RUN CHURCHES:

(iii) …THEY CONDUCT CONGREGATIONAL CHURCH SERVICES: and

(iv) …OFFER PRAYERS FOR ‘…HEALING THE SPIRITUALLY SICK.’

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THIS NEWS STORY:

(a) ‘… IF SO OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED: and

(b) …IF SO OFFICIALLY DISSEMINATED: COULD PROVOKE CALLS: for

(i) …PASTOR AND COMMISSIONER OF POLICE, EVERTON JEFFERS KPM: and

(ii) …DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS (DPP), CLEMENT JOSEPH’ TO DEMIT OFFICE.’

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ADVICE OF DPP:

(a) ‘…EVIDENTIARY: or

(b) …INVESTIGATIVE?’

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FROM PROFESSIONAL KNOWLEDE AND/OR EXPERIENCE WITH SEVERAL FORMER DPPS: inclusive of

(i) ‘…CECIL KENNARD (Guyana):

(ii) …DUNBAR CENAC (Grenada):

(iii) …CAROL MALCOLM (Jamaica):

(iv) …MAURICE JAMES (Jamaica):

(v) …COSBERT CUMBERBATCH (Barbados):

(vi) …GENE PESTAINA (Dominica):

(vii) …JOANNE WALSH (Antigua and Barbuda):

(vii) …ANTHONY ARMSTRONG (Jamaica):

(ix) …SHANNON JONES-GITTENS (Antigua/Barbuda),’

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EVIDENTIARY ADVICE:

THEIR ‘…ADVICE TO CRIMINAL INVESTIGATORS,’ HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ‘…EVIDENTIARY.’

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ATTENTION OF DPP:

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WHY…? …THEY HAVE ALL HELD RESPECT FOR THE RULINGS IN

(i) ‘…R v RAYMOND BLACKBURN -METROPOLITAN POLICE COMMISSIONER [1968]: and

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(ii) …ATTORNEY GENERAL v STEADROY BENJAMIN [2014: JCPC Ruling: Paragraph 31].

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THEY ARE: not

(a) ‘…CRIMINAL INVESTIGATORS:

(b) …THEY DO NOT INVESTIGATE CRIME:.

(c) …THEY ARE PUBLIC PROSECUTORS.’

(d) …THEY MAY INSTITUTE ANY CHARGE CONSIDERED PROPER, BUT: no

(e) …DICTATION TO THE POLICE.’

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MARTIALLING EVIDENCE:

WHILE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATORS SHALL ‘…MARTIAL THE EVIDENCE: that

(c) …PUBLIC PROSECUTORS ARE: to

(d) …ENSURE SUFFICIENCY OF EVIDENCE, AT LEAST ‘…PRIMA FACIE:’ so as

(e) …SATISFY COMMITTAL MAGISTRATES:

(f) …PROVIDE FOR INDICTMENT: and

(g) …PROSECUTORIALLY, TO PRESENT AND CONVINCE:

(i) …THE JURY: or

(ii) …JUDGE IN ‘…JUDGE ALONE TRIALS: that

(iii) …EVIDENCE SO PROSECUTORIALLY PRESENTED IS ‘…CONVINCINGLY SAFE FOR CONVICTION.’

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NO MATTER HOW PROSECUTORIALLY-ADEPT, ‘…NO DPP’ SHALL REFUTE THESE.

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STILL, THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR ‘…CASE TESTING.’

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CHARGING ACCOMPLICES ACCOMPLICES WITH MURDER

NOW:

CHARGING THE ‘…SURVIVING ACCOMPLICES’ WITH MURDER,’ KNOWING THAT THE ‘FATAL BULLET’ WAS DISCHARGED BY A ‘…POSSIBLE PROSECUTION WITNESS,’ APPEARS MAKING ‘…MOCKERY: of

(a) ‘…THE POLICE SERVICE:

(b) …THE PROSECUTION: and

(c) …THE LAW.’

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KEY PROSECUTION WITNESS:

NOW, THE ‘…SHOOTER (Thomas-ex-military personnel) AS THE ‘…KEY PROSECUTION WITNESS,’ HE SHOULD BE WELL-ADVISED BY THE ‘DPP’ TO SEEK ‘…LEGAL REPRESENTATION.’

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WHAT THE HELL…!

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MAKE NO ‘…MOCKERY OF, AND BLAME NOT THE JUDICIARY.’

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INTEREST OF JUSTICE:

THE ‘DPP’ MAY NOW ‘…REQUIRE THE CORONER’ TO IMMEDIATELY HOLD ‘…AN INQUEST INTO THE ‘…SHOCKING SHOOTING DEATH OF 16-YEAAR-OLD TAFARI JOSEPH’ [Coroners Act: Chapter 105: Section 43].

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WHAT THE HELL…!

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SUCH SHALL HELP MORE: to

(a) ‘… TO SATISFY THE INTEREST OF JUSTICE: than

(b) …HELP TO ‘..DEFEAT THE ENDS OF JUSTICE.’

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READ GOOD.

Hey point gang .. ONDCP OFFICE shoot he .. the man said hey to frighten them so the could run and he point the gun at the man .. watch the video good .. just before he got shot he was raising the hand with the gun

@ Wendel Alexander go to hell! You have no …. You are one of the reasons…..in Antigua. You …..

Give my ass a break. Talk to yall kids. Then again some yall can’t even talk to them cuz aru own pickney a bang aru. I said what I said. Mi nah k a who you be you nah ha no right fu rob nobody period. And that right there in the video says alot. They have done this numerous times. Mi say shot them rasshole when yah ketch them. Mi k who vex. Aru rass go look work fah do and put dung badness.

For a murder charge to hold, the accused must have the kill another human being and must have the intent to kill or do serious harm and that death occur within a year and a day. Did the alleged robbers killed tafari? One can google the requirements for murder offence and discover for himself or herself. And if they did, did they have the intent to kill or the intent to do serious harm? Now apply the facts of this case to the law as I state above and there lies the answer.

lol. I don’t feel sorry for none of them! What they didn’t expect is exactly what happened. They deserve everything that’s coming at them. NO SORRY DEY

Murder is an heinous crime.

So the man that pulled the trigger why isn’t he being charged? He’s the reason Tafari is dead and please argue with your parents and not me

Robbery

Went left bredrine got shot…

Let’s drop him off at emergency door and drive off he will be dealt with urgently….

Better Idea! Let’s take him to Villa so no one will know we were on a robbery….

Took him to Villa change clothes etc…

Bredrine slips away due to gun shot wound….

By the time they finally get to the Hospital……Too Late…..

Who is responsible got the young man’s death??

Is it a possibility he could of survived if he was urgently transported to the Hospital???

That is the question….

If the gunshot wound was fatal and was not survivable then who is to get the murder charge???

Yes, co-conspirators can be charged with murder in a robbery if a robber dies, even if they didn’t directly cause the death. This is often due to the felony murder rule, which holds participants in certain felonies liable for deaths that occur during the commission of the crime, regardless of whether they intended the death. .. hey Wendell this is Google

This is what google says…guess you ain’t that good after all mr lawyer …. Yes, co-conspirators can be charged with murder in a robbery if a robber dies, even if they didn’t directly cause the death. This is often due to the felony murder rule, which holds participants in certain felonies liable for deaths that occur during the commission of the crime, regardless of whether they intended the death.

Why mr Pompey identifying people .. do you have the right ?

To Asot murdered…..Don’t u find it strange that shooter/security is not mentioned??? Why is his identity not revealed to the public he is after all a hero…..hmmmmm….We do not know exactly when the teenager passed away and he was shot on the left side of his upper body in the chest area….The shot could of been a fatal shot and directly the cause of death….Let’s see if the law is fear or will the law be bent to teach these young men a lesson by pinning a murder charge on them…….