Lovell Accepts PM Browne’s Challenge to Debate on Social Security and Jolly Beach

I look forward to tune into this debate on ABS or wherever it’s hosted where all ideas can contend. Social Security is too important to all of us for any political games to be played with it.

Great!!!!
You only objective in that debate should be to show/expose the incompetence of Gaston Browne.
I encouraged you to take on the challenge.
I have one condition to go along with the acceptance.
The debate must be conducted by a journalist.
Not by an ass kisser.
Therefore that excludes Burford.
Even further I recommend journalist just as is done during cabinet press briefing to pose questions.
It must not take place on the terms of ABS and Burford.
Neutral interviewer!!!!!!!!!!!

So, now iz time for an adult conversation on social security, the UPP just side step Pringle??
What does that say about Pringle’s current capacity and readiness to lead the country if he isn’t even competent enough to be at the forefront articulating the UPP’s position on the state of social security?

UPP have a leadership problem because action speaks louder than words. So we all now see ah Lovell who the REAL leader of UPP be. Is like Mr. Knight really right about Pringle the way he does.

These are the kinds of deliberation and action that are beneficial and useful and I hope it can take place in a cordial and sociable setting without name-calling, vilification and slander. The nation and its citizens would be better off with this exchange.

@ Straight Shooter, I agree with you, as long as it’s not Burford. This gentleman came here on a year contract to improve ABS and he still here after so many years. I have said it a thousand times…” Beware of foreign consultants coming under the false pretense of offering technical assistance when in fact they are seeking permanent employment and citizenship ” Look at Customs

Lovell stepping up to the plate—let’s see if he can back up the talk.

PM Browne already laid out his case; now it’s Lovell’s turn.

Hope the debate stays civil and focused on the issues.

Hope the debate addresses concerns about transparency and accountability.

Jolly Beach could be a great asset if managed properly.

Debates like this are crucial for a healthy democracy.

Beautiful just beautiful!

I can’t wait to witness this challenge by the Most Honourable Harold Lovell. If he keeps his cool and tackles Browne’s broken manifesto promises over his 11 years, and then his obvious weaknesses on our finances/economy then surely it’s a win win debate for Mr Lovell, paving the way for a return to the UPP fold.

And if he does a ‘rope-a-dope’ on Gaston Browne’s fragile and temperamental behaviour, winning this debate will most certainly be a walk in the park.

The only downside I can see to this debate though, is why oh why is the government’s state media mouthp ABS involved? Outrageous!!!

This is like having a biased and myopic referee in charge of proceedings …

Bring in Nikki phoenix – a real journalist – to show Burford how to hold politicians to account. Look how she retire Lionel Hurst …

This is a STAGED comeback attempt by Limpy Joe IMF Pimp to try and undermine the DULY ELECTED LEADER JAMALE PRINGLE

There shouldn’t be any debate about using social security to precure investment loans for failed ventures like jolly beach, none.

The case Gatson is making is a foolish and risky one, plain and simple, argument done!

This is just a two bit swindler trying to sell people on a bill of goods that he knows would not materialize.

If Jolly Beach was such a locative venture, why didn’t he use the stolen loot he got from the Alpha and invest in Jolly Beach?

At least that money was free..but he spent that loot so fast you don’t even know what became of it.

Stop been swindled by this man people, stop falling for the snake oil tricks from this man.

We all know you don’t get this rich in Antigua unless you’re a crook.

This looks like a fine opportunity for the UPP to save some face. Mr Pringle cannot debate Mr Browne. Browne would roll all over Pringle (who said he admired him), not necessarily with facts but with scorn, insults, bombast and derision.

It appears that Mr Browne might be surprised that Mr Lovell has accepted the challenge. Since Mr Lovell spoke out on the social security issue, he and his radio station have been slinging mud at him nonstop. This smells like fear.

We all know the facts about what has happened to Social Security money on the arrival of this Administration in 2014 and how Browne has bastardized this statutory body from the onset of his reign.

Mr Lovell is a very intelligent and astute man. He knows Browne well and his attitude of trying to overpower anyone who is not in agreement with him, or is not fawning all over him to make him look favourable. Lovell must therefore insist on the following things.

Neither of them must have any affiliate on the debate stage. Neither political nor abettor. It would be wise to look at the format of the US debates and copy the fine points from them. For that reason, it is important that a moderator be selected who meets the approval of both debaters.

BTW, stay away from the big brains with the copious letters behind their names.

UPP, this gives the party an opportunity to sort out its poor public image and its leadership quagmire. This has nothing to do with Mr Pringle as a person. All his supporters who keep saying that he should be given a chance to learn the job of leader, take note. It might have missed you that this is 2025 and by the time a person reaches those lofty heights, most of the learning has been done and it is time for implementation. Maybe Mr Pringle is wobbling under this very heavy weight of expectations and would welcome the opportunity to relinquish it with some grace and relief.

Looking forward to this debate, just keep it respectful and please, please we do not want the mercenary BURFORD involved. Do you agree with me Faithful National # 1

Keep Garfield Burford far away from this one.

Lovell who?????

Lovell cannot match Gaston. Story done. This debate if it comes off will be the end of Pringle. Who is Lovell, but a failed former UPP Minister who led them to defeat. To resurrect him while the UPP has a leader is to disrespect Pringle. He is just too stupid to realise this fact. So the real winner of this debate will be the destruction of Pringle. Poor fellow.

Immediately after this, there should be a debate on the NAMCO finances. I doubt this first debate is going to climax amicably because that guy might just go rogue; especially if his lies are challenged with facts. His handlers need to slightly overdose him before the proceedings. He gets kicks from ‘putting bull bud ‘ in lawyers’ backside.

Consider Mitzi Allen as moderator.
She’s an experienced journalist and interviewer, regionally & in Canada.
She is respected for her craft and development of young Antiguans into the profession.

Ground rules must be established and made public, definitely to include no talking over the other person, no interruptions, no personal attacks or name calling.

Let the youth see 2 experienced politicians debate each other with decency, correct language, wit and verifiable facts.
Remember, the triumphant schools debating teams, toastmasters etc. who are all intelligent, professional speakers and debaters, will be watching keenly.

The challenge to the 2 politicians is to make Antiguans as proud of them as we are of our youth in this skill.

I am totally not interested in having any Debate, Gaston Browne and his supporters will be claiming that Gaston Browne won the Debate, regardless as to how much Harold Lovell dismantled his argument.
Gaston Browne himself knows quite well that he is no match for Lovell and will be using this opertunity, for promoting his wicket scheme, to pauparising Antiguans and Barbudans, by rendering the Social Security Scheme bankrupt.
Antiguans and Barbudans needs to make their presence felt, and locked this country down, as long as Gaston Browne continues to persue his wicket plan..

Just one more pandemic and Jolly Beach will end up like LIAT (1974) Ltd. A few questions:

– Who owns Jolly at the moment? If it’s Govt then something fishy is going on. Is it performing? If so why sell?
– Where will SS get $75 million? Why do Govt’s always want to steal from SS? Because it’s easy money?
– Investments in SS should be AAA investments. So what are the current status of the current SS assets?
– Who audits SS? Are the audits available to the public?

A hotel investment might be too much of a risky investment for social security scheme let us not forget the hit that the hotel industry took in the 2008-2009 recession and then again in most recent time in 2020 over a short period of time during the covid-19 pandemic. I know we’re hearing about all sorts of war over there in the Middle East to a point where Iran is threatening to block off a major route for oil in that region. What do we think would happen? Remember that region supplies around 20% of the world oil. Maybe the social security board should have been given most of the shares in West Indies oil for period of maybe 10 to 15 years and that would have been a less risky investment

@ Faithful National #1: The Lovell that you all keep cheating every election, you all are mortally afraid of him, you all even admit to transferring voters into other constituencies in order to win. Not me say so it’s the dawg

I think investing the funds of social security is a smart idea however my question is, what is the percentage of it is being diversified? I don’t know the make up of their portfolio but I hope not more than 10% is going in this one project. We’ve seen how fragile the tourism product can be and with rising tensions across the globe that could damper current projections it might be best to invest as gingerly as possible and invest more into agriculture, building commercial buildings, mortgages to create more financing and housing options for citizens, other countries bonds, index funds across the globe, etc. Just my thoughts!