{"id":196305,"date":"2024-03-01T14:23:12","date_gmt":"2024-03-01T18:23:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/?p=196305"},"modified":"2024-03-01T14:23:12","modified_gmt":"2024-03-01T18:23:12","slug":"parham-police-station-officers-threatened-by-detained-suspect","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/parham-police-station-officers-threatened-by-detained-suspect\/","title":{"rendered":"Parham Police Station Officers Threatened by Detained Suspect"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"antig-3981044370\" class=\"antig-ecab antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/discoverflow.co\/web\/antigua\" aria-label=\"ANU CVP Digital Broadband 1200x400_1\"><img src=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1201\/h:401\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\"  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sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" width=\"1200\" height=\"400\"   \/><\/a><\/div><p>Source: Real News Antigua- A number of officers at the Parham Police Station reportedly were threatened with bodily harm by a suspect who was detained following a stabbing incident.<\/p><div id=\"antig-2206251950\" class=\"antig-content_5 antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ablpag\" aria-label=\"BEAZER\"><img src=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:883\/h:1080\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/BEAZER.jpeg\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:883\/h:1080\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/BEAZER.jpeg 1309w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:245\/h:300\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/BEAZER.jpeg 245w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:838\/h:1024\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/BEAZER.jpeg 838w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:768\/h:939\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/BEAZER.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:883\/h:1080\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/BEAZER.jpeg 1257w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" width=\"1309\" height=\"1600\"   \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>The threats extended to the children one officer, with the suspect allegedly vowing to kill them.<\/p>\n<p>A source tells REAL News the man was being held in the cell at the Parham Police Station when he reportedly became violent and began to kick the door of the cell repeatedly, while using profane language.<\/p><div id=\"antig-1135083916\" class=\"antig-content_4 antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/discoverflow.co\/web\/antigua\" aria-label=\"ANU CVP Digital Broadband 1200x400_1\"><img src=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1201\/h:401\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1201\/h:401\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg 1201w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:300\/h:100\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1024\/h:342\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:768\/h:256\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" width=\"1201\" height=\"401\"   \/><\/a><\/div><div id=\"antig-1390829386\" class=\"antig-content_12 antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ablpag\" aria-label=\"IMG_0040\"><img src=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:864\/h:1080\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG_0040.jpg\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:864\/h:1080\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG_0040.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:240\/h:300\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG_0040.jpg 240w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:819\/h:1024\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG_0040.jpg 819w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:768\/h:960\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG_0040.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1350\"   \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>The source says that a corporal warned the man to desist from his behaviour and language; but he persisted, demanding to know why he was being detained for so long when he had only defended himself during the altercation with another man.<\/p><div id=\"antig-86070906\" class=\"antig-content antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ReggaeInTheParkAntigua\" aria-label=\"lucanio\"><img src=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:864\/h:1080\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/lucanio.jpeg\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:864\/h:1080\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/lucanio.jpeg 1080w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:240\/h:300\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/lucanio.jpeg 240w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:819\/h:1024\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/lucanio.jpeg 819w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:768\/h:960\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/lucanio.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1350\"   \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>The suspect, the source says, claimed that he had been assaulted.<\/p>\n<p>And in the altercation, he took away the knife and stabbed the other man.<\/p><div id=\"antig-1092460290\" class=\"antig-content_2 antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.courts.com\/antigua\/\" aria-label=\"500X500 (1)\"><img 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he meets the officer alone he is going to show him how wicked he, the suspect, is.<\/p><div id=\"antig-790743149\" class=\"antig-content_3 antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/chtamarketplace.com\/\" aria-label=\"Social FaceBook Cover Desk_Mobile\"><img src=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1920\/h:711\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Social-FaceBook-Cover-Desk_Mobile-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1920\/h:711\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Social-FaceBook-Cover-Desk_Mobile-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:300\/h:111\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Social-FaceBook-Cover-Desk_Mobile-scaled.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1024\/h:379\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Social-FaceBook-Cover-Desk_Mobile-scaled.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:768\/h:285\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Social-FaceBook-Cover-Desk_Mobile-scaled.jpg 768w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1536\/h:569\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Social-FaceBook-Cover-Desk_Mobile-scaled.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1920\/h:711\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Social-FaceBook-Cover-Desk_Mobile-scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" width=\"2560\" height=\"949\"   \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Allegedly, he added that if he was unable to hurt the policeman, then he would hurt his school-age children \u2013 since, when he gets upset, he would kill anybody, no matter how young.<\/p><div id=\"antig-116966292\" class=\"antig-content_6 antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/discoverflow.co\/web\/antigua\" aria-label=\"ANU CVP Digital Broadband 1200x400_1\"><img src=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1201\/h:401\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1201\/h:401\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg 1201w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:300\/h:100\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1024\/h:342\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:768\/h:256\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ANU-CVP-Digital-Broadband-1200x400_1-1.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" width=\"1201\" height=\"401\"   \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Reports say he told another officer \u2013 whom he derided as being<br \/>\n\u201cblack and ugly\u201d \u2013 that when he meets him on the road he is going to go after him.<\/p>\n<p>The police corporal again warned the suspect about the threats, and he allegedly responded, \u201cAre you nah bad from no way.<\/p>\n<p>Open the cell and one a you come in, and me go show you how me deal with<br \/>\npeople.<\/p>\n<p>You think you bad? Me go coop you and shoot you\u2026 .\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This matter, which reportedly occurred on February 27 at 6:15 p.m., is under investigation.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/chat.whatsapp.com\/K6ik1ayPDdvJQk3KYXjb5a\"><strong>CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE WHATS APP GROUP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<div id=\"antig-3339046987\" class=\"antig-in-comments_2 antig-entity-placement\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/@hadeedmotorsltd\" aria-label=\"Hadeed_WEB_Banner_MG-2\"><img src=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1000\/h:250\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Hadeed_WEB_Banner_MG-2.png\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:1000\/h:250\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Hadeed_WEB_Banner_MG-2.png 1000w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:300\/h:75\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Hadeed_WEB_Banner_MG-2.png 300w, https:\/\/mlavawteztbj.i.optimole.com\/w:768\/h:192\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/antiguanewsroom.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Hadeed_WEB_Banner_MG-2.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" width=\"1000\" height=\"250\"   \/><\/a><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Source: Real News Antigua- A number of officers at the Parham Police Station reportedly were threatened with bodily harm by a suspect who was detained following a stabbing incident. The threats extended to the children one officer, with the suspect allegedly vowing to kill them. 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